By YS on December 03 2009
From David on December 03, 2009
I just watched that show 2 nights ago for a class. The thing that I find disturbing is that the teens that return 80-90% are returning to a religion of rules and not to a love for their savior. Of course not all are this way, but a majority do. I don’t want my teens returning to our Baptist church because they are out of options and have no job, I want them to return because of the irresistible love of Jesus.
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From Katie on December 03, 2009
I watched that too with my husband who used to party in PA with the Amish kids. He confirmed that they certainly are wild. I have to disagree with David though about them returning for reasons other than a love of their savior. I think that the Amish do Love God. Just because they choose to practice it differently doesn’t mean they’re bad christians. Also, those kids don’t come back because they have no where else to go in most cases. They go back because they had strong religious and family oriented upbringings. I believe that is why so many young christians don’t come back to the church when they leave. Families are weak, a lot of christian families included. The Amish church is set apart and they offer things that the world and the church as we know it do not. Security, community, support, all to levels that we could never compete with. I have a great deal of respect for that. I think the kids sense it’s loss and the instability of the “english” world and that is why they come back, but faith is a huge part of that stability that they’re coming back to.
From David on December 03, 2009
I too believe that the Amish love God. That is why they separated themselves, but I think most of the kids after experiencing the world and not having more than an eighth grade education feel trapped and realize that home is the only place they can function. Education is a big key to surviving in our society and I think they are partially crippling their children by not allowing them to continue. They have no other options. It is either a life of partying or living in the Amish church.
From Theophilos on December 03, 2009
David’s point’s are right on. If you have no more than an eighth grade (if that) education, little to no social survival skills in this culture, and no one to connect with on the outside till you make it, its got to be extremely tough to make a decision to remain outside of the comforts of Amish connection. When you add to that the fact that those who decide to permanently leave the Amish are disinherited and ostracized by their own families, never being permitted to speak to their Amish siblings again, it compels the Rumspringa participants to keep their recidivism rate quite low. Although I would never question the Amish desire to love and obey God, the pattern surrounding Rumspringa certainly isn’t anything that resembles discipleship to Christ nor His way of wooing people into His kingdom.
From Seth Browback on December 04, 2009
We should try to make ALL YOUTH MINISTIRES like the Amish. I mean, we have free will right? Why not try to capitalize on it? Don’t rip on the Amish bro, b/c when you do, you judge yourself…
From David on December 04, 2009
Hey Seth,
I don’t think anyone is ripping on them. This is a place we can come and discuss things. We all do have free will, but I will not tell my son that when he is 16 he can go drink,do drugs and have sex. I teach him that these things are against the will of God. If he chooses to do them, when he is older then that is between he and God. I will always be there to help pick up the pieces if he chooses the wrong path. And even if he says no to the church, he will still be welcomed into my home. I will never turn my back on him, because God has blessed me with children and I take that seriously.
From Adam McLane on December 04, 2009
david- based on the quick succession of sarcastic comments, I’m going to take a guess that Seth’s comments were meant to be snarky and taken as jokes. But, I’ll let him speak for himself.
From David on December 04, 2009
My bad! I didn’t catch the sarcasm. I better go get more coffee! :)
From Lynell Darbyshire on January 25, 2010
Nice article, this site has really been an eye opener. Can’t wait to see what you write about. Go for it!